Pinata Regatta

Fleet 42, if you are interested in joining Pinata regatta in the fall looks like we should put in for reservations now!

Btw, if you go to the group main Facebook page, you can find the Playa Bonita form under the “files” tab. Fill it out and send it in!

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Roosevelt Lake Spring Fever Sail

Well, the “Spring Fever” sail event lived up to its name!  Scott and Mary arrived bright and early Thursday morning at 7:15 am to the Windy Hill camp ground at Roosevelt Lake to secure a good central camp site for the group.  Only to find a good portion of the campgrounds already occupied!  We did manage to secure a spot close to the only workable “beach”.  A rocky and dead-bush guarded shore but serviceable with some ingenuity, determination and a good pair of pruners!  

Fortunately, more people cleared out Friday and Brett and Tina arrived towing their F18 C2, followed closely by Jeff and Earl (F18) and they were both able to secure close-by camp sites.  Scott and Mary were joined by friends Diane and John, and with that we’d achieved Fleet 42 critical mass!  Saturday morning reinforcements arrived with Ken and his Nacra 5.2, Chris & Anna and their G-Cat, and Rich and Richard and their bicentennial Hobie 16.  They managed to score and share another great camp-site nearby so we were set!

Thursday and Friday had light but pretty steady winds.  Water temps were cold but the air temps were in the low 80s, sunny but with enough clouds to really highlight the beauty of the lake in pictures.  Pictures here:  We made use of the conditions to break in some new skippers.  Lessons came complete with a lovely paddle back to shore at sunset, no extra charge!  

Saturday the forecast big winds arrived around 1:40 pm.  Everyone took off hither and thither all around this section of the lake.  Scott, Mary, and Diane zipped off to their new favorite destination of Haystack Island.  It’s a pretty magical island as it is invisible until you are nearly on top of it!  Meanwhile Chris was sailing with Anna and Richard Jr on the cat-in-the-hat striped G-Cat looking pretty fabulous.  Ken was showing off his multi-hued and bedazzling Nacra 5.2, and when he heard a fleet new-comer, Alex, was interested in a ride, was kind enough to head in and pick him up at the dock.  Meanwhile Jeff and Earl had sprung the spinnaker on the F18HT just before the wind kicked in.  The still water reflection of the F18HT in its spinnaker wardrobe came out in an awesome picture.  Meanwhile, Rich was soloing on his Hobie 16 and decided to let the wind push him around.  Twice.  Rich, you are looking pretty practiced at the speed-boat assisted righting procedure!  Scott, Mary, and Diane, after gawking at Rich’s capsizes, headed back out one last time, trying to make it to the bridge.  Got close enough to take the picture and then decided to zoom home so as not to be late to the Saturday evening potluck.

Everyone got more than their fill of sailing, the last ones off the lake coming in around 4:30 pm.  Everyone pulled their boats out at the ramp, deciding not to deal with the rocky shore.  Despite the large number of campers at the lake, many did not have boats, and the ramps were blessedly free of competition to pull out.  We all had plenty of time to make our best dishes for the potluck by the fire.  Good time had by all.  

Sunday morning most started packing up, but there was still good wind forecast and Ken headed out to try a new spinnaker.  Chris was also heading out for more.  In the end, despite some initial worries about finding good camp sites, everything worked out absolutely great.  6 boats turned out, 14 people.  Great weather, sailing and company.  Thanks all for coming out.  Hope we see you too at a future event!

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America’s Cup

Charlie Spitzer forwarded Scott Winkler this compact summary of links for the America’s Cup, in case you’ve missed it and want to check it out. Some pretty crazy sailing going on down there!

Round Robin

Day 1:

Day 2:

Day 3: (USA capsize @ 22:50. See

Day 4:


Day 1: (USA hit 50.8 kts)

Day 2:

Day 3: not needed


Day 1:

Day 2:

Day 3:

Day 4:

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Fleet 42 “Unofficial” June Outing…

Hi Fleet 42,

Hope this email finds you all well and good.

Some more news on the local catamaran sailing front.  The Pinata Regatta hosted by Fleet 514 in October has been canceled because of too many unknowns with fall-out from the Corona Virus.  The Hobie cats may still go down and do a fun sail, depending on conditions (open border, etc).  Fleet 42 will also still go down to Mexico if it is open or do the event at Roosevelt Lake if not.

The Fleet 42 June event to Roosevelt Lake is officially canceled.  But unofficially we are going.  Similar to our last Lake Pleasant outing, the situation is too uncertain for an official outing (Horse Pasture is underwater, lake is at 99% full as of 5/24) but I think we could pull off an unofficial event.  What this is really saying is I can’t find a spot on the lake where I feel I can reasonably guarantee a good, convenient group location, but individually we may be able to do so, and even make a good group event out of it anyway.  

So, if you would like to join the “unofficial” event at Windy Hill in June, I will be there from Jun 18th to Jun 21st.  I will be at Windy Hill Recreation area in the Coyote camp area, hopefully somewhere in sites 280-293.  Sites 292 and 293 actually have beach access and I will try to get one of them.  We could land there but not launch.  However, we can not count on getting those sites so best to regard this as a launch and land from the ramp event.  Here is a link to satellite maps of the areas that I put together with some annotations.

Note, a campsite is $25/night for a normal space and $50 for a double.  No RV hookups, but it has picnic tables and shade awning and bathrooms.  Even showers, although they are currently closed because of the virus.

We will do a potluck Saturday evening if there is a group present.  Send me a note if you think you might come.  I’ll post again on arrival on Thursday to give everyone a heads up on the conditions.

Looking forward to it!!! Roosevelt Lake is as full as you will see it, and very pretty!  We camped at site 283 this last Sunday through Wednesday (without boat unfortunately) but had a good time.  If you have any questions about the campground or conditions there, shoot me a message.  Hope to see you there!

    Scott Winkler – Commodore-Fleet 42

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From our Commodore

Hi Fleet 42,

Much of the world seems to have come to a standstill, but we are still here and I thought I’d send out a quick note!

Although Lake Pleasant and Roosevelt Lake are closed to camping, they are both open to day sailing.  Chris Picknally, Ken Gerrard, and Duane Darling are some who have made it out for day sailing at Lake Pleasant.  Reports have been that it has been good sailing!

Meanwhile, Roosevelt Lake is 99% full.  I’d really like to sail on a maxed out Roosevelt Lake!  If camping opens, I will try a trip to the lake to see about camping at the RV campgrounds and launching from the campground boat ramps.  This will not be as convenient as camping on the shore to be sure, but the lake sure is pretty when it is full, and I want to sail it!  Will send out an update if that looks good and that is probably what we will do for our June event, as Horse Pasture is unlikely to be out of the water by June.

In other news, the AZ Fleet 42 Whatsapp group is gathering a good following!  For those unfamiliar with it Whatsapp is (yet another, sorry!) communication tool.  This is kind of a cross between a bulletin board and text messaging.  Works well for group communications (and is completely encrypted).

Here is how I view our communication tools:  Email is our official communication tool.  I’ll use it for “official” updates on calendar events and fleet and general news.  I view Facebook as the tool to post relatively time-insensitive information, such as trip reports, pictures, technical questions, etc.  And finally I consider Whatsapp best for tactical, in-the-moment communication, i.e. “I’m going to the lake tomorrow!” or “Where’s the turn-off to cat-point”, etc.  You are welcome to use or not use these tools, they are not all for everyone.  If you do decide to try Whatsapp, it has a subtle but obvious visual notification indicator which means you can turn off the audio notification (the beep), which I recommend.  Here is the invite link:

AZ Fleet 42 link to join my WhatsApp group:

If you are heading out to the lake and looking for company I recommend continuing to post to both Facebook and Whatsapp to get the word out!

Finally, in the last email, I mentioned putting on a virtual regatta at the end of April.  I’ve been sailing in this online “game” and I like it!  But, in addition to it being not quite ready for a prime-time group event, I didn’t sense too much interest in the group for it.  So tabling the idea for now.  If you would like to try it (and match race me) here is the link.

 Ok, hope to see you all, as soon as we can, in real-life on the water!!

Scott Winkler – Commodore – Fleet 42

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Fleet42 News and Update

Hi Fleet 42,

Well, a lot has happened in the world since the last update.  I hope this finds you well and still positive as I know the Corona Virus has adversely affected many, either health or livelihood.

Thinking about sailing may seem like a luxury now, but I believe it is a good, healthy, positive distraction.  So, I hope this distracts you in a good way.

First, lets get all the bad news out of the way.  Last email we did cancel the April Roosevelt event.  Cinco de Mayo regatta has also been canceled.  Both Roosevelt and Lake Pleasant are closed to camping, although there is some question as to whether day use is still allowed.  I could not reach the rangers at Roosevelt which doesn’t bode well.  In any event, no ‘official’ events from the fleet in April or May.  I am leaving the June event on the calendar for now. 

In better news, we did hold a very successful event at Lake Pleasant just as the guidance for the Corona Virus was coming down.  I think we managed to have a good time while still upholding our social distancing obligations (which at that time were still just being promulgated). I’ve just sent a separate email recapping the event.

So, now the good news?  All the Arizona lakes are full and beautiful.  And I am determined to hold a regatta in April!! Not only will there be a regatta but it will be a one-design race!  How can we do that??  Well, yes, it is going to be a virtual regatta.  This won’t be for everyone but I think it could be a lot of fun and a great way to stay connected.  I’ve been playing it.  Y’know, its pretty good. I still love the starts and suck at the race itself, just like the real thing.  And we can set up a Fleet 42 specific regatta so we can race each other.  I can finally (maybe) beat both Brian Willess and Jim Tomes! 

So, I’ve spent some time learning this ‘game’ (they are partnered with World Sailing, btw).  It isn’t easy, initially I found the controls and environment confusing.  Same as when I started to sail!  Its like starting over.  I can host a Zoom meeting the week before to demonstrate/answer questions to get people a fast start, if there is interest.  You can play either on a PC or download the app to your phone.  I recommend the phone initially, although I am using the PC now.  Google/Search “Virtual Regatta Inshore”.  If you are interested in doing this, download and go through the training.  Shoot me an email if you do.  Or if you have questions.  I could use some help trying the Custom Race feature (I need someone else online to try it with me!).

I’m not sure if there will be interest in this, but I figure why not give it a try.  I will send out a follow-up post with the date and time of the regatta and maybe a time for a Zoom meeting the week before to demo/answer questions if there are any.

I will also, finally be sending out invites for a Whatsapp Fleet42 group.  I’ve mentioned this before.  This is a replacement for mass text messages some of us have been using.  Again, this is not for everyone, and that is not a problem   If you’d like to join, download Whatsapp to your phone, text or email me, at and I’ll invite you. 

Hoping for fair winds soon,

  -scott winkler

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Spring Fever Sail event, March 20-22 Roosevelt Event Update #3:

Ok, Fleet 42. Some breaking news. The alternate site that we scouted out just last week for our Roosevelt event is also now unfortunately underwater. I’m super bummed. I’m going to cancel the Roosevelt event and Instead we are going to go with an informal gathering at Lake Pleasant. This is your invite if you would like to join us. There are three of us (myself, Jeff Eisner, and Brian Willess) who intend to go up on Thursday and try to get spots at a place called Fireman’s Cove. I have not been there, but I’m told it is flat and a good place if we can get spots. We’ll do our best. Hope you still want to join us. I’ll post directions as a comment, and after we are on site will post on the conditions (crowded or not) and GPS coordinates.

If you do intend to join us, give us a heads up so we have an idea how many may come.

Scott Winkler – Commodore – Fleet 42

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Spring Fever Sail event, March 20-22 Roosevelt Event Update #2:

Hello Fleet 42!

Big update! Our usual Roosevelt sailing location at Horse Pasture is completely submerged!

However, we have found what looks like a great alternative at the Roosevelt Lake Windy Hill Recreation site.  The site is a dirt overflow parking area for the Windy Hill Badger launch ramp.  The ramp is submerged so the forest service opened the area to camping.  We drove up and checked it out, and it looked great!  It is about an additional 15 minutes south of Horse Pasture.  It is a decent sized area, flat, and no rocks.  I liked it better than Horse Pasture and it is much more comfortable than Lake Pleasant.  It does not have a lot of shoreline, but we think we can get there early enough to get a chunk of it, and in any event the area is so flat and smooth it will be easier than Playa Bonita to wheel boats around on cat wheels if needed.  If you have questions about the new area let me know.

In any event, we are going to give the new location a go!  I am super excited to sail in this new part of the lake.  And even more excited to sail with Roosevelt Lake at its max size.  This is going to be cool.  If you do think you may come, give me a heads up.  Any questions let me know.  I’ve updated all the details below.  Note, I’m putting the April event on a temporary hold status.  We will decide what to do for April based on the results of the March event at the new location.

Scott Winkler – Commodore Fleet 42

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Spring Fever Sail event, March 20-22 Roosevelt Event Update:

Mary and I took a trip out to explore Roosevelt Lake today. Turns out the plentiful spring rains have filled up our lake system. Horse Pasture, our usual camping and launching point is completely submerged. No camping there. We got a lead on another spot at Windy Hill so we went to check it out. I have never sailed at Roosevelt when the lake was full because Horse Pasture is where we go, and when it is underwater we don’t go. Well, the lake when it is full is just beautiful. We had a fabulous day exploring all the campgrounds, Schoolhouse, Grapevine, Windy Hill, Frasier, Cholla and even the submerged Horse Pasture. It was a great day. And the spot at Windy Hill looked great. The camp area is actually a dirt overflow parking lot for the Badger boat launch ramp at Windy Hill that the park has opened up because the ramp is underwater. But it looks perfect for launching cats. The lot is dirt/grass, but actually flat with no rocks. Actually better than Horse Pasture even and waaaaaay better than moon-crater Lake Pleasant. There is not a ton of shore line but it is a decent size space. Even if we are not first to arrive (we will try to be–arriving Thursday) we can set up a bit further back and easily cat-wheel if needed. I believe it will work. We are going to go for it!!! We will be updating the March 3/20-3/22 event location with the details. I am *excited* to sail from Windy Point! This is going to be cool! And sailing on Roosevelt at its maximum is going to be super cool!!! Hope to see you there!

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Spring Fever Sail event, March 20-22 Roosevelt Event Details:

Scott Winkler is arriving Thursday 3/19 by noon to get a spot. Arrive anytime thereafter. Or earlier, but contact Scott so he looks for you when he arrives.
Roosevelt Lake, Horse Pasture/Bermuda Flat recreation area. Usually we set up toward the south end (turn right after the entrance). Here is the approximate location:
A Tonto pass is required to camp at the lake. A pass is $8 per day. They are not for sale at Horse Pasture but you can get them in Punkin Center or in Phoenix and Tucson areas. Locations to buy are here:
Look for the catamaran masts! Also, Scott Winkler will be in a large Class C Sunseeker Motorhome. The “Sunseeker” label is plastered all over the RV so you should be able to spot it. Also, we will be setting up a common area with a gold-colored canopy hung with sailing flags and ocean-colored camo on a couple of the sides for shading. Should stick out pretty well! You can also call Scott at 480-250-5000. He will be arriving Thursday morning March 19th to get a spot.
Sailing! Destination sail, beer can race, Rick White drills, etc.
Onshore: Friday lunch brats, Saturday evening Potluck, campfire, games, telescope viewing
Shore Talk: If there is interest Scott Winkler will do a talk/presentation on his Clipper Round the World sailing adventure (He did three legs of the Clipper race from Liverpool England to Fremantle Australia). We may possibly have another interesting talk/presentation or two depending on people’s schedules.
Bring a sailboat if you have one, stand-up paddle boards, kayaks, and any other water toys. Bring a friend to introduce to the lake and sailing!
Attend the event and you and your crew get a free Fleet 42 ball-cap. They are cool!

For any questions contact Scott Winkler via email.

See you at the lake!

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